Harrisburg's conflict over ideas for change

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By Arielle Clay aclay@nbcaugusta.com

Friday some Harrisburg residents took their concerns to Sheriff Ronnie Strength and requested the Georgia Bureau of Investigation be brought into the neighborhood.

Those residents are members of an organization called Hong Kong. They want the GBI to come in to deal with what they say is a drug and housing problem. But everyone in the community does not agree with the organizations beliefs.

“It's a class issue. It's people who don't have nothing, don't care about nothing and ain't ever had nothing. Those people should be living somewhere else,” Butch Palmer, Hong Kong’s facilitator, said.

His organization wants to make sure Harrisburg does not become a ghetto. He says the neighborhood has taken a turn for the worse mainly because of Section 8 housing.

“I would say a good 30% don't need to be living in a civilized neighborhood. They don't make good citizens, they don't make good neighbors,” Palmer said.

He suggests moving those people out of the community.

“Displace these people with upwardly mobile people,” Palmer said.

But Charlotte Ginn disagrees.

“Hitler had the same idea to purge citizens and that did not work,” she said.

Ginn is the children's minister at Bible Deliverance Temple on Eve Street. She says those in Section 8 are trying.

“Those people are now calling me everyday looking for housing looking for a job. We’re working with those people. They're not a lost cause,” Ginn said.

Palmer also blames faith based initiatives for some of Harrisburg's problems. Programs like those at Ginn's church.

“We see a whole lot of enabling of drug addicts and alcoholics,” Palmer said.

But Ginn said eliminating faith based initiatives is not the answer.

“The problem comes from accountability of the people in these ministries. And when we have someone that is not fulfilling their accountability we would have to remove them,” she said.

But resident Sebrina Muirhead says many of Harrisburg’s problems come from community members turning a blind eye.

“We have to look out for each other but if no one speaks up and says anything that's why it’s going to get worse and worse,” Muirhead said.

The members of Hong Kong said the meeting with the Sheriff was productive. GBI will not be called in as of yet. But according to Palmer the group is planning some protests in the community.

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Tuesday, Nov 11 at 11:16 PM Jones wrote ...

If my people which are called by my name--would humble themselves and pray, turn from their wicked ways, the I will hear from heaven and heal their(our) land (PRAY) (PRAY)

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Monday, Oct 13 at 7:51 AM Pat Merkerison wrote ...

I sincerely apologize for the post from Louise Merkerison.. My mother passed away in June of 2002 . She did not post this about anyone. My mother always taught us , if you don't have anything good to say about anyone , Keep your mouth shut! If you can't get along with anyone , stay away from them ! I'm now 54 yrs old and I believe my mother taught us the right way. I apologize to the paster of Crawford Ave Church for this . And I hope to have this deleted soon.

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Monday, Oct 13 at 3:56 AM takes one to know one wrote ...

Mr Palmer, get off your high horse , get back in the closet with your own drugs.Everyone knows you've been a druggie for years .While pointing your finger at others, pull your thumb back at yourself.Stop with the holier than thou attitude, you are certainly no better than any one else. let the chips fall where they will. I am sure you are under the eye as well.

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Monday, Oct 13 at 3:36 AM Pat Merkerison wrote ...

Ignorant people do ignorant things .. Mr Palmer needs to STOP using names of people who are in facilities and are dead to promote his issues. I for one resent this . Louise Merkerison,my Mother passed away in 2002 ! I am sure this is not her post .

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Saturday, Oct 4 at 3:34 PM BDT MEMBER wrote ...

Ms Logan The member is very right it says it in the word of God and people that try to fight or go against it will have to deal with him. We are truly annointed by God and there is noone or nothing that can change and hinder that. Also churches have a CEO not CEO's and a pastor that is in order.Sadly you won't be worshipping with us anymore but one day God will lead you where you are trulycalled but until then you need to be careful what you say believe me one day you will reap what you sow

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Friday, Oct 3 at 5:51 PM Linda Logan wrote ...

"Touch not my annointed" oh yea, they use all kind of bible verses to get the members into a click or cult. I went to BDT for years but no more. Being a CEO's and a preacher at the same time is a conflect of interest.

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Monday, Sep 8 at 6:05 PM Current BDT Member wrote ...

The McKnights have been a pillar in this community and they are helping people. I can't speak for all the indigent but the ones who are a part of the program at Bible Deliverance, have become faithful , respectful, hardworking citizens of Harrisburg.Who cares what property is in what name. Pastor Kelly is an annointed man of God and we have seen miracles happen in our church.The bible says "Touch not my annointed" you better watch what you say about the man of God. P.S. I like Jim Baker.

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Sunday, Sep 7 at 5:34 PM Anonymous wrote ...

The NcKnights put on a big show to help he poor but they are well heeled. They are not the only preachers that do mighty will for themselves. Their are many since the advent of Fath Based Initiatives. Look around! Churches gain more porperty and Richmond County looses more property tax. Property owners pay more property taxes.

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Sunday, Sep 7 at 4:50 PM Discusted Ex BDT member. wrote ...

Richmond county land records from the on line GIS map http://mapweb.augustaga.gov/augusta/ show that the Bible Deliverance Temple transferred uptown neighborhood property located at 1307 Hickman Rd to preacher Kelly McKnightrs wife Chasity Leigh McKnighgt and Another Chance Ministries inc transferred 1303 Hick man Rd to Kellys father, A. K. McKnight. Another Chance inc is another Kelly McKnight scam. Another Jim Baker.

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Sunday, Sep 7 at 4:15 PM Anonymous wrote ...

The people with Carolina tags are carrying off bags of food. McKnight uses the good give -a- ways to try to strengthen the church. As far as the poor section 8 people in the area helping...Why don't they try to keep the streets clean...they are mostly the ones who throw the litter to the streets.

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Sunday, Aug 31 at 7:56 PM Mary Prince (BDT Member) wrote ...

I have been a resident in Harrisburg for forty years and I am proud of it. I am even prouder of being a member of BDT and I am proud of us supporting the homeless and those need that most people stay away from. We are all God's Children not just the rich, the comfortable and the pretty, there not the only ones going to heaven and if you believe that than you are surely going to be facing the devil comejudgement day.

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Sunday, Aug 31 at 7:03 PM Current BDT Member wrote ...

One more thing the cars that you see with a South Carolina tags in front of the food bank and church are people that come to support and help lead these ministries weekly.

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Sunday, Aug 31 at 6:57 PM Current BDT Member wrote ...

For those that say our church is being used for a Shady business you will have to answer before God with your comment to try to hurt our church. God has opened doors more now than ever before and we will continue to walk in what he leads. Our pastor Kelly McKnight will continue to bring unity in this city and obey what God tells him to do. It doesn't matter whether we have South Carolina Cars at our church or not. Harrisburg is a part of all of us in this ministry.

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Wednesday, Aug 20 at 12:53 AM Jenny Corley wrote ...

If you cannot feed them do not breed them. The non profits need to teach family planning and birth control. Those Harrisburg houses are mostly one and two bedrooms. That means two to four people in each house, max! They pile up in those little houses like rats. Those sorry absentee landlords need to put their foot down and make those trashy people behave with some dignity. That church encourages them to bed up like roaches by houling in the deadbeat "homeless" . How nasty is that?

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Monday, Aug 18 at 10:51 PM Betty Gay wrote ...

The riff raff don't stay long. We are getting decent upwardly mobile people to take their place. Our goal is to have a nice garden community. One in which each member takes pride in their gardening and domestic pleasures...decorating,arts higher culture. Wouldn't it be great to have a StarBucks instead of Mercy Ministries ?

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Monday, Aug 18 at 10:32 PM oliver dent wrote ...

The AME is a mostly black uppity church. They don;t do hand outs. I think that it is the most respectable church on Crawford ave It is defiantly the classiest church. They are the best dressed too

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Monday, Aug 18 at 10:18 PM Mae Garner wrote ...

I believe that the religious groups are well meaning but they are causing the addicted and our community harm. Most of the church members do not live in Harrisburg. They should tend to their own homes and let ours be so the rif raff will go away. The churches and mercy ministries are a drawing card for down and outs. It is most unhealthy for our community. The more grants they apply for the more the riff raff will come. All we want is a normal neighborhood.

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Monday, Aug 18 at 10:01 PM butch palmer wrote ...

There is a drug house on Walker St. The landlord verified that his house tenants are on section 8. From the first day that this single welfare mother moved in people have been selling crack cocaine. Four men were arrested at the address. If we do not push this issue; This Welfare mother will remain to infect our community with her ugly federally inspired "values" Low life such as this is destroying our neighborhood. We want them out.

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Saturday, Aug 16 at 11:05 PM Terry wrote ...

Why should Harrisburg get cleaned up, even the suburbs are a nightmare? There's drug-trafficking everywhere I turn! I tried for nearly 10 years to get my neighborhood cleaned up. I didn't want to move, but the retaliation became much too dangerous. I don't appreciate my children being robbed of their childhood and I my peace of mind and sleep, because someone was tipping them off the police were on their way when noise complaints, profanity, ETC. were called in. Lotsa Luck!

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Saturday, Aug 16 at 5:49 PM Ex BDT member wrote ...

Many of the cars that we see at the Bible deliverance Temple food bank have South Carolina Tags. BDT uses the food bank and other give-a-ways as an attempt to increase business. Preacher Kelly Mc Knight has several businesses going on for profit. The church is a front or shady businesses.

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Saturday, Aug 16 at 4:45 PM concerned wrote ...

I would loke the sheriff to do something about the loud noises coming from cars especially at night. Do we or don't we have a noise ordinance? If we do, then enforce it, even if its not the P.C. thing to do. Since they statted sending Section 8 people to live around here I have idiots at all points of the globe vying for loudness. Again, do we or don't we have a noise ordinance?

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Saturday, Aug 16 at 11:21 AM Will Kicklighter wrote ...

You can house trashy, unruly people in a fine mansion and in time it will be in shambles.

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Saturday, Aug 16 at 11:17 AM Elsie Mills wrote ...

Too many people in Harrisburg are a case of beer and a carton of cigarettes away from being homeless. The church give a way programs enable these people. They need to hit rock bottom before they can recover. I do believe that these churches people are sincere but they are in error. There is a big difference between Hitler and good community organization. The better neighborhoods in Augusta do not have riff raff. The majority of Harrisburg property owners agree with www.hongkongaugustaga.org

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